ctrp395 Behind the Famine in Somalia

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Earlier this year a famine was declared in Somalia. It was not the first time the world had heard about a humanitarian crisis in that struggling country. How did the world respond? How did Somalia get to the state it is in today and who was involved in getting it that way?

As part of a new monthly series, a veteran of the international scene and my good friend Tarak and I sit down here in Amsterdam and talk about the case of a massive under-reported concern with many lives on the line and a lot of money invested or, not invested, as the case may be.  We break down the situation and look at it through a critical and caring lens.

13 thoughts on “ctrp395 Behind the Famine in Somalia

  • October 18, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    despised by the “MEN” and forgotten by “God” and the true Purgatory

  • October 19, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    thanks for the conversation, agreed to most but ofcourse (u know me) not all. first piracy, the image of these poor fisherman turning into pirats is just…. if true, which fisherman would go back after collecting 30 million US? it is organised crime with links to both shabaab and mogadishu and foremost Nairobi and London where it is organised.. Secondly, you guys didn´t know Kenya invaded Somalia? A long planned operation (from my observations here), not yet very succefull (i am not even sure which/who´s agenda is on the table here). And lastly, the clan structure is not one of the root problems. Somaliland clearly indicates otherwise…

  • October 19, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    ah, and forgot, lets see what happens to shabaab if the supply of khat from kenya stops….

  • October 19, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Thanks Vic! Tarak is on the road right now but once back maybe he’ll respond. As for the Kenya invasion, we recorded this in the beginning of the month, so it didnt come up. Or is this current Kenyan invasion not the first? Ill go look but feel free to answer. I probably should mention date of recording, I just hate spoiling the “new” feeling when I put the show out.

  • October 19, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    yes you are right, the invasion started the day before you posted it…

  • October 19, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    LRA? you see, i didnt know about that. where, in uganda, sudan or drc? dont even know where they are now…
    us with lra, u made me laugh, but he, there are some crazy christian fundamentalist in the US as wel..

  • October 19, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Oh just do a little search the news came on Sunday I think, Obama is sending about 100 military advisors-trainers to Uganda to help in the fight against LRA.

  • October 20, 2011 at 8:16 am

    it turned out that yesterday newspaper had a 3 page story on this. about all previous special forces that were all killed… but mainly gossip stuf. Apparently he likes rambo… However, here it says that obama is sending combat units. but the rethorics is in the name.

  • November 1, 2011 at 1:27 am

    Bit late on replies – thanks Vic for some very valid points.
    On pirates: seems like the first ones also did it as of frustration that fish wasn’t there or turned up polluted in early 2000s (looking back since 1991, ships have been either over-fishing the Indian ocean in front of Somalia to feed NE Asia without being stopped by anyone OR dumping all kinds of waste barely away from the coast! Original pirates also had a socio-economic & anti-imperialist bend!); it has definitely turned into a globalized criminal endeavour..
    On clans, I think it is still a fundamental feature – yes Hargeisa is doing better somewhat but it is also through clan dominance of the Isaak groups which rests on a semi-state, authoritarian structure but daily violence in Somaliland continues to be clan-driven.
    On Kenya entering the fray: whether planned (it was) or spur of the moment (dumb coordination going in at the start of a heavy rainy season!), the motive lies more with opportunism to advance its own ‘buffer zone’ ambitions in the newly created Azania state (March 2011); the Kenyan problem is wider also including the increased perception of internal threat at Nairobi levels over its own Kenyan-Somali population & the more than 1M refugees (Dadaab has become the third biggest city in-country after Nairobi & Mombassa!) who will stay in-country for many more years to come. Agreed on the lack of coverage (of LRA as well, now mostly in CAR apparently)…Fascinating Horn of Africa for anybody interested!

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