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	<title>Comments on: HAcker Congress 07 Almost Done</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Todd</title>
		<link>http://citizenreporter.org/2007/12/hacker-congress-07-almost-done/#comment-161543</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

No place on this page with your email address.  I tracked down your &lt;a href="http://bicyclemark.org/blog/2007/04/bmtv44-on-new-orleans-prison/" rel="nofollow"&gt;vblog of your New Orleans prison anecdote&lt;/a&gt; you told me, for which comments are closed, so I have to leave something here.

The body in Britain that arranges for citizens to monitor the conditions within the State's prisons is now known as the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Monitoring_Board" rel="nofollow"&gt;Independent Monitoring Board&lt;/a&gt;, formerly known as the "Board of Visitors", which has been around for centuries fulfilling the obvious need, illustrated in New Orleans.

Information about such institutions is not much in evidence on the web.  I can only dig up &lt;a href="http://www.hrsolidarity.net/mainfile.php/2005vol15no05/2450/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this report&lt;/a&gt; about the history of it in India, and there's &lt;a href="http://www.ric.edu/statehomeandschool/resourcesStevens.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this piece of American history&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Rhode Island Woman Suffrage Association took a keen interest in the condition of women inmates in state jails and prisons. In the early 1870's, women from the Suffrage Association lobbied the governor to appoint a "Board of Women Visitors" to institutions like the state prison, where women were resident. Six women, among them Elizabeth Buffum Chace, spent several years in the early 1870's visiting and reporting on conditions in state institutions regarding women and girls.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ah, I've managed to find your &lt;a href="http://bicyclemark.org/blog/2007/04/bm196-legal-issues-and-jail-conditions-in-nola/" rel="nofollow"&gt;other interview&lt;/a&gt; about it.  There aren't many links in between things, and there's no webpage showing the data your interviewee has been collecting.

The rule of thumb is that none of this is ever new.  The situation has happened before, and so have the solutions.  It is one of the triumphs of our modern education system that it makes us forget how we won any of our rights, so when they get taken away we have no idea how to get them back.  The stories of the struggles in the 1900s and 1930s really matter.

So in your stories about the legal aid workers and the New Orleans prisons, I was quite taken aback by how passive they were -- just gathering information at the door for some sort of legal case later, rather than demanding and insisting that they get inside to inspect it, or planning to occupy the governor's office till he gives the order, or even getting themselves arrested to check it out personally.  No one seems very aware just what level of action may be necessary.  

I was somewhat hopeful by &lt;a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/21/new_orleans_police_taser_pepper_spray" rel="nofollow"&gt;this footage&lt;/a&gt; from democracy now, but it's still not good enough.  The residents were merely demanding the right to watch the meeting vote for the demolition of their houses.  They should have been demanding that the meeting not go ahead.  No one asks for nearly enough.  The place is not on fire as it should be by now.  In other countries, the government has to shoot people in the street to get this level of compliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>No place on this page with your email address.  I tracked down your <a href="http://bicyclemark.org/blog/2007/04/bmtv44-on-new-orleans-prison/" rel="nofollow">vblog of your New Orleans prison anecdote</a> you told me, for which comments are closed, so I have to leave something here.</p>
<p>The body in Britain that arranges for citizens to monitor the conditions within the State&#8217;s prisons is now known as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Monitoring_Board" rel="nofollow">Independent Monitoring Board</a>, formerly known as the &#8220;Board of Visitors&#8221;, which has been around for centuries fulfilling the obvious need, illustrated in New Orleans.</p>
<p>Information about such institutions is not much in evidence on the web.  I can only dig up <a href="http://www.hrsolidarity.net/mainfile.php/2005vol15no05/2450/" rel="nofollow">this report</a> about the history of it in India, and there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.ric.edu/statehomeandschool/resourcesStevens.html" rel="nofollow">this piece of American history</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Rhode Island Woman Suffrage Association took a keen interest in the condition of women inmates in state jails and prisons. In the early 1870&#8217;s, women from the Suffrage Association lobbied the governor to appoint a &#8220;Board of Women Visitors&#8221; to institutions like the state prison, where women were resident. Six women, among them Elizabeth Buffum Chace, spent several years in the early 1870&#8217;s visiting and reporting on conditions in state institutions regarding women and girls.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, I&#8217;ve managed to find your <a href="http://bicyclemark.org/blog/2007/04/bm196-legal-issues-and-jail-conditions-in-nola/" rel="nofollow">other interview</a> about it.  There aren&#8217;t many links in between things, and there&#8217;s no webpage showing the data your interviewee has been collecting.</p>
<p>The rule of thumb is that none of this is ever new.  The situation has happened before, and so have the solutions.  It is one of the triumphs of our modern education system that it makes us forget how we won any of our rights, so when they get taken away we have no idea how to get them back.  The stories of the struggles in the 1900s and 1930s really matter.</p>
<p>So in your stories about the legal aid workers and the New Orleans prisons, I was quite taken aback by how passive they were &#8212; just gathering information at the door for some sort of legal case later, rather than demanding and insisting that they get inside to inspect it, or planning to occupy the governor&#8217;s office till he gives the order, or even getting themselves arrested to check it out personally.  No one seems very aware just what level of action may be necessary.  </p>
<p>I was somewhat hopeful by <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/21/new_orleans_police_taser_pepper_spray" rel="nofollow">this footage</a> from democracy now, but it&#8217;s still not good enough.  The residents were merely demanding the right to watch the meeting vote for the demolition of their houses.  They should have been demanding that the meeting not go ahead.  No one asks for nearly enough.  The place is not on fire as it should be by now.  In other countries, the government has to shoot people in the street to get this level of compliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Netwatcher</title>
		<link>http://citizenreporter.org/2007/12/hacker-congress-07-almost-done/#comment-161540</link>
		<dc:creator>Netwatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interview with Bicyclemark from Radio Netwatcher / on Radio ORANGE 94.0 Vienna

http://www.freie-radios.net/portal/content.php?id=20356

bye from berlin/vienna, manfred radio netwatcher
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interview with Bicyclemark from Radio Netwatcher / on Radio ORANGE 94.0 Vienna</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freie-radios.net/portal/content.php?id=20356" rel="nofollow">http://www.freie-radios.net/portal/content.php?id=20356</a></p>
<p>bye from berlin/vienna, manfred radio netwatcher<br />
link: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netwatcher</p>
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